{"id":2263,"date":"2024-07-19T09:26:08","date_gmt":"2024-07-19T09:26:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/chris-mason-my-40-minutes-with-ukraines-zelensky\/"},"modified":"2024-07-19T09:26:08","modified_gmt":"2024-07-19T09:26:08","slug":"chris-mason-my-40-minutes-with-ukraines-zelensky","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/chris-mason-my-40-minutes-with-ukraines-zelensky\/","title":{"rendered":"Chris Mason: My 40 minutes with Ukraine&#8217;s Zelensky"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Chris Mason: My 40 minutes with Ukraine&#8217;s Zelensky<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"ssrcss-xza2yt-ComponentWrapper ep2nwvo1\">\n<figure class=\"ssrcss-8589xk-StyledFigure e34k3c23\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-ab5fd8-StyledFigureContainer e34k3c21\"><span class=\"ssrcss-1igdug0-Placeholder etlorgc0\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/3f3f\/live\/6ae5ffc0-4590-11ef-9682-7da32830974b.png.webp 240w, 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class=\"ssrcss-m5j4pi-MetadataContent eh44mf00\"><span class=\"ssrcss-1pvwv4b-MetadataSnippet e4wm5bw3\"><span class=\"ssrcss-1if1g9v-MetadataText e4wm5bw1\"><time data-testid=\"timestamp\" datetime=\"2024-07-19T07:03:40.525Z\">2 hours ago<\/time><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/div>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-uf6wea-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\"><b class=\"ssrcss-1xjjfut-BoldText e5tfeyi3\">I get to interview a lot of politicians.<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">And, full disclosure: I like politicians.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">It is my job to scrutinise them on your behalf and ask the questions you need answers to.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">But I think seeking public office is a noble thing to do.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Many politicians could have a quieter, easier life \u2013 and in many cases a more lucrative one too \u2013 if they decided to do something else for a living.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">But functioning democracies require people willing to enter public life and take with it the brickbats that follow.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Every so often, I have the privilege of meeting a political figure who stands out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Volodymyr Zelensky stands out, among the politicians I talk to at least, because he is a wartime leader.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">He is the personification of a nation under siege, in a deadly conflict that pits  &#8211; albeit indirectly \u2013 the values, instincts and interests of western democracies against Russia.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">The former television comic and actor, who finds himself not just as his country\u2019s president, but president at a time of ultimate jeopardy for his people \u2013 and so finds himself one of the most recognisable faces on earth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">What a privilege, then, for me to be invited to ask him some questions on your behalf during his visit to the UK.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">He is a man Moscow would like to see dead, so you won\u2019t be surprised that the security that surrounds him is muscular.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"links-block\" class=\"ssrcss-12l5xzx-LinksComponentWrapper e3eyuya0\">\n<section class=\"ssrcss-msolhr-LinksWrapper e3eyuya5\">\n<ul role=\"list\" class=\"ssrcss-mh3hvv-InContentLinksGrid e3eyuya3\">\n<li class=\"ssrcss-r2yl4r-PromoItem e3eyuya1\">\n<div data-testid=\"promo\" class=\"ssrcss-nw19pv-Promo e1vyq2e80\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-1enzf19-PromoCompact e18gnqux0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-1d68cot-PromoContent exn3ah99\">\n<div spacing=\"2\" class=\"ssrcss-1f3bvyz-Stack e1y4nx260\"><span role=\"text\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-15dlehh-PromoHeadline exn3ah96\"><span aria-hidden=\"false\">Zelensky: Trump would be hard work, but we are hard workers<\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/div>\n<div spacing=\"2\" class=\"ssrcss-1f3bvyz-Stack e1y4nx260\">\n<div>\n<ul role=\"list\" class=\"ssrcss-j4gvkq-MetadataStripContainer eh44mf03\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-13nu8ri-GroupChildrenForWrapping eh44mf02\">\n<li role=\"listitem\" class=\"ssrcss-30fcoe-MetadataStripItem eh44mf01\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-m5j4pi-MetadataContent eh44mf00\"><span class=\"ssrcss-1pvwv4b-MetadataSnippet e4wm5bw3\"><span class=\"ssrcss-1if1g9v-MetadataText e4wm5bw1\">10 hours ago<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/div>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"ssrcss-r2yl4r-PromoItem e3eyuya1\">\n<div data-testid=\"promo\" class=\"ssrcss-nw19pv-Promo e1vyq2e80\">\n<div 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ago<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/div>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/section>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-uf6wea-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">I had first seen first-hand his capacity as a communicator when he addressed Parliament in Westminster about 18 months ago.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">I was to see it again, one on one, in my conversation with him now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">He speaks very good English, but in longer interviews (we spoke for around 40 minutes) he often answers in Ukrainian, particularly if he feels it important to be precise in his choice of language.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">So we spoke through interpreters, apart from the moments when he relished switching into English.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">I challenged him on the corruption that seems embedded if not endemic at senior levels of Ukrainian society.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">He said the fact we knew about it \u2013 and people had lost their jobs because of it \u2013 showed it was something Kyiv took seriously.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">He was sanguine about the prospect of getting to know yet another British prime minister \u2013 Sir Keir Starmer is his fourth in the two and a half years since Russia\u2019s full-scale invasion of Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Sanguine because, he said, the UK had remained steadfast and consistent in its support for him, despite the domestic political turbulence.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">A week ago Sir Keir \u2013 on his first overseas visit as prime minister \u2013 had been in the room at the Nato summit in Washington when US President Joe Biden had managed to muddle up President Zelensky with President Putin of all people, with the Ukrainian president standing just yards away.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">I was just down the corridor waiting for Sir Keir\u2019s news conference, in which President Biden\u2019s jaw-dropping gaffe dominated. The prime minister, just like Ukraine\u2019s leader, sought to play it down as just one of those things.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">But President Zelensky\u2019s take on Donald Trump\u2019s outlook on Ukraine was more spiky \u2013 and in English.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">He also acknowledged that a return of all Ukrainian land was not necessarily a pre-condition for the fighting to end, as far as he saw it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">\u201cIt doesn\u2019t mean that all territories are won back by force,\u201d he said. Let\u2019s see what reaction those remarks provoke.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">For now the war rages on, tens of thousands of lives lost, millions of people displaced, billions of pounds spent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">\u201cThe time to stand up for freedom and democracy is now and the place is Ukraine,\u201d Nato Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg had told me earlier.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">A message for ears in Moscow, Washington and beyond as the war rages on \u2013 and Volodomyr Zelensky continues to make his case for your support to win it.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"topic-list\" class=\"ssrcss-1qmkvfu-TopicListWrapper etw6iwl1\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-smoc0a-StyledTagContainer ed0g1kj1\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-50vlbt-TopicListHeaderWrapper etw6iwl0\">\n<h2 type=\"normal\" class=\"ssrcss-1hh51ad-Heading e10rt3ze0\">Related Topics<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ssrcss-17ehax8-Cluster e1ihwmse1\">\n<ul role=\"list\" spacing=\"2\" class=\"ssrcss-1ujonwb-ClusterItems e1ihwmse0\">\n<li>War in Ukraine<\/li>\n<li>Volodymyr Zelensky<\/li>\n<li>Ukraine<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Published at Fri, 19 Jul 2024 07:03:40 +0000<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Chris Mason: My 40 minutes with Ukraine&#8217;s Zelensky 2 hours ago I get to interview a lot of politicians. 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