{"id":3063,"date":"2025-01-28T05:20:35","date_gmt":"2025-01-28T05:20:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/chinas-deepseek-ai-upends-assumptions-and-dents-americas-swagger\/"},"modified":"2025-01-28T05:20:35","modified_gmt":"2025-01-28T05:20:35","slug":"chinas-deepseek-ai-upends-assumptions-and-dents-americas-swagger","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/chinas-deepseek-ai-upends-assumptions-and-dents-americas-swagger\/","title":{"rendered":"China&#8217;s DeepSeek AI upends assumptions and dents America&#8217;s swagger"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>China&#8217;s DeepSeek AI upends assumptions and dents America&#8217;s swagger<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"ssrcss-1qlkdz0-ComponentWrapper-FullWidthWrapper ey0461q0\">\n<figure class=\"ssrcss-1vfya96-StyledFigure e34k3c22\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-ab5fd8-StyledFigureContainer e34k3c21\"><span class=\"ssrcss-b294mj-Placeholder etlorgc0\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/240\/cpsprodpb\/d9ff\/live\/3937d420-dd35-11ef-a37f-eba91255dc3d.jpg.webp 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/320\/cpsprodpb\/d9ff\/live\/3937d420-dd35-11ef-a37f-eba91255dc3d.jpg.webp 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/480\/cpsprodpb\/d9ff\/live\/3937d420-dd35-11ef-a37f-eba91255dc3d.jpg.webp 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/624\/cpsprodpb\/d9ff\/live\/3937d420-dd35-11ef-a37f-eba91255dc3d.jpg.webp 624w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/800\/cpsprodpb\/d9ff\/live\/3937d420-dd35-11ef-a37f-eba91255dc3d.jpg.webp 800w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/976\/cpsprodpb\/d9ff\/live\/3937d420-dd35-11ef-a37f-eba91255dc3d.jpg.webp 976w\" type=\"image\/webp\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Deepseek and ChatGPT app icons are seen in this illustration\" src=\"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/05XdBP.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/240\/cpsprodpb\/d9ff\/live\/3937d420-dd35-11ef-a37f-eba91255dc3d.jpg 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/320\/cpsprodpb\/d9ff\/live\/3937d420-dd35-11ef-a37f-eba91255dc3d.jpg 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/480\/cpsprodpb\/d9ff\/live\/3937d420-dd35-11ef-a37f-eba91255dc3d.jpg 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/624\/cpsprodpb\/d9ff\/live\/3937d420-dd35-11ef-a37f-eba91255dc3d.jpg 624w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/800\/cpsprodpb\/d9ff\/live\/3937d420-dd35-11ef-a37f-eba91255dc3d.jpg 800w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/976\/cpsprodpb\/d9ff\/live\/3937d420-dd35-11ef-a37f-eba91255dc3d.jpg 976w\" width=\"999\" height=\"562.4369999999999\" class=\"ssrcss-11yxrdo-Image edrdn950\"><\/picture><\/span><span role=\"text\" class=\"ssrcss-tvuve5-StyledFigureCopyright e34k3c20\">Reuters<\/span><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"byline-block\" class=\"ssrcss-1hbb5i-BylineComponentWrapper e8mq1e90\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-qt5zqv-BylineWrapper e19uhciu17\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-h3c0s8-ContributorContainer e19uhciu16\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-1u2in0b-Container-ContributorDetails e19uhciu13\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-68pt20-Text-TextContributorName e19uhciu6\">Lily Jamali<\/div>\n<div class=\"ssrcss-84ltp5-Text e19uhciu10\">North America Technology Correspondent, San Francisco<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ssrcss-jlwt2c-Divider e19uhciu15\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"metadata-block\" class=\"ssrcss-xza2yt-ComponentWrapper ep2nwvo1\">\n<div>\n<ul role=\"list\" class=\"ssrcss-1ik71mx-MetadataStripContainer eh44mf03\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-13nu8ri-GroupChildrenForWrapping eh44mf02\">\n<li role=\"listitem\" class=\"ssrcss-30fcoe-MetadataStripItem eh44mf01\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-m5j4pi-MetadataContent eh44mf00\"><span class=\"ssrcss-1pvwv4b-MetadataSnippet e4wm5bw3\"><span class=\"ssrcss-1if1g9v-MetadataText e4wm5bw1\"><time data-testid=\"timestamp\" datetime=\"2025-01-28T05:08:22.378Z\">10 minutes ago<\/time><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/div>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-uf6wea-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\"><b class=\"ssrcss-1xjjfut-BoldText e5tfeyi3\">The speed at which the new Chinese AI app DeepSeek has shaken the technology industry, the markets and the bullish sense of American superiority in the field of artificial intelligence (AI) has been nothing short of stunning.<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Venture capitalist Marc Andreessen may have said it best. &#8220;DeepSeek-R1 is AI&#8217;s Sputnik moment,&#8221; he posted to X on Sunday, referring to the satellite which kicked off the space race.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">DeepSeek was the most downloaded free app on Apple&#8217;s US App Store over the weekend. By Monday, the new AI chatbot had triggered a massive sell-off of major tech stocks which were in freefall as fears mounted over America&#8217;s leadership in the sector.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Shares of AI chip designer and recent Wall Street darling Nvidia, for example, had plunged by 17% by the time US markets closed on Monday. Or to put it in even starker terms, it lost nearly $600bn in market value which, according to Bloomberg, is the biggest drop in the history of the US stock market.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">This extraordinary, historic spooking can largely be attributed to something as simple as cost. And a claim by DeepSeek&#8217;s developers which prompted serious questions in Silicon Valley.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">While ChatGPT-maker OpenAI has been haemorrhaging money &#8211; spending $5bn last year alone &#8211; DeepSeek&#8217;s developers say it built this latest model for a mere $5.6m.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">That is a tiny fraction of the cost that AI giants like OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic have relied on to develop their own models.<\/p>\n<div class=\"ssrcss-1le81vw-ListContainer e5tfeyi0\">\n<ul role=\"list\">\n<li>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\"><b class=\"ssrcss-1xjjfut-BoldText e5tfeyi3\">EXPLAINED:<\/b> What is DeepSeek and why did it cause stocks to drop?<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\"><b class=\"ssrcss-1xjjfut-BoldText e5tfeyi3\">HANDS ON: <\/b>Is DeepSeek as good as it seems?<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">As this dramatic moment for the sector played out, there was a palpable silence in many corners of Silicon Valley when I contacted those who are usually happy to talk. Many observers, investors, and analysts appeared stunned.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Some wondered if this marked a buying opportunity. Others questioned the information DeepSeek was providing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">&#8220;I still think the truth is below the surface when it comes to actually what&#8217;s going on,&#8221; veteran analyst Gene Munster told me on Monday. He questioned the financials DeepSeek is citing, and wondered if the startup was being subsidised or whether its numbers were correct.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">The chatbot is &#8220;surprisingly good, which just makes it hard to believe&#8221;, he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Regardless, DeepSeek&#8217;s sudden arrival is a &#8220;flex&#8221; by China and a &#8220;black eye for US tech,&#8221; to use his own words.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">It was just last week, after all, that OpenAI&#8217;s Sam Altman and Oracle&#8217;s Larry Ellison joined President Donald Trump for a news conference that really could have been a press release.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">The event represented peak American bullishness on AI.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"ssrcss-1qlkdz0-ComponentWrapper-FullWidthWrapper ey0461q0\">\n<figure class=\"ssrcss-1vfya96-StyledFigure e34k3c22\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-ab5fd8-StyledFigureContainer e34k3c21\"><span class=\"ssrcss-b294mj-Placeholder etlorgc0\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/240\/cpsprodpb\/3d37\/live\/d6f5c8f0-dd32-11ef-bc01-8f2c83dad217.jpg.webp 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/320\/cpsprodpb\/3d37\/live\/d6f5c8f0-dd32-11ef-bc01-8f2c83dad217.jpg.webp 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/480\/cpsprodpb\/3d37\/live\/d6f5c8f0-dd32-11ef-bc01-8f2c83dad217.jpg.webp 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/624\/cpsprodpb\/3d37\/live\/d6f5c8f0-dd32-11ef-bc01-8f2c83dad217.jpg.webp 624w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/800\/cpsprodpb\/3d37\/live\/d6f5c8f0-dd32-11ef-bc01-8f2c83dad217.jpg.webp 800w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/976\/cpsprodpb\/3d37\/live\/d6f5c8f0-dd32-11ef-bc01-8f2c83dad217.jpg.webp 976w\" type=\"image\/webp\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"US President Donald Trump (L) gives remarks on artificial intelligence (AI) Infrastructure as Larry Ellison (2-L), Chief technology officer of Oracle, Masayoshi Son (2-R), CEO of SoftBank, Sam Altman (R), CEO of OpenAI look on in the Roosevelt Room of the White House\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/oHoBFG.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/240\/cpsprodpb\/3d37\/live\/d6f5c8f0-dd32-11ef-bc01-8f2c83dad217.jpg 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/320\/cpsprodpb\/3d37\/live\/d6f5c8f0-dd32-11ef-bc01-8f2c83dad217.jpg 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/480\/cpsprodpb\/3d37\/live\/d6f5c8f0-dd32-11ef-bc01-8f2c83dad217.jpg 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/624\/cpsprodpb\/3d37\/live\/d6f5c8f0-dd32-11ef-bc01-8f2c83dad217.jpg 624w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/800\/cpsprodpb\/3d37\/live\/d6f5c8f0-dd32-11ef-bc01-8f2c83dad217.jpg 800w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/ace\/standard\/976\/cpsprodpb\/3d37\/live\/d6f5c8f0-dd32-11ef-bc01-8f2c83dad217.jpg 976w\" width=\"999\" height=\"562.4369999999999\" class=\"ssrcss-11yxrdo-Image edrdn950\"><\/picture><\/span><span role=\"text\" class=\"ssrcss-tvuve5-StyledFigureCopyright e34k3c20\">EPA<\/span><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-uf6wea-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">They announced Stargate, a joint venture that promises up to $500bn in private investment for AI infrastructure: data centers in Texas and beyond, along with a promised 100,000 new jobs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">The US seemed to think its abundant data centers and control over the highest-end chips gave it a commanding lead in AI, despite China&#8217;s dominance in rare-earth metals and engineering talent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Some have even seen it as a foregone conclusion that America would dominate the AI race, despite some high-profile warnings from top executives who said the country&#8217;s advantages should not be taken for granted. <\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">The US may still go on to command the sector, but there is a sense that DeepSeek has shaken some of that swagger.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Trump&#8217;s words after the Chinese app&#8217;s sudden emergence in recent days were probably cold comfort to the likes of Altman and Ellison. He called this moment a &#8220;wake-up call&#8221; for the American tech industry, and said finding a way to do cheaper AI is ultimately a &#8220;good thing&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">It is also worth noting that it was not just tech stocks that took a beating on Monday. Energy stocks did too. DeepSeek&#8217;s arrival on the scene has upended many assumptions we have long held about what it takes to develop AI.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">Maybe that nuclear renaissance &#8211; including firing up America&#8217;s Three Mile Island energy plant once again &#8211; won&#8217;t be needed. 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e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">DeepSeek says its model was developed with existing technology along with open source software that can be used and shared by anybody for free.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">But WIRED reports that for years, DeepSeek founder Liang Wenfung&#8217;s hedge fund High-Flyer has been stockpiling the chips that form the backbone of AI \u2013 known as GPUs, or graphics processing units.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">The company has said its models deployed H800 chips made by Nvidia. US policy restricting sales of higher-powered chips to China might get a second-look under the new Trump administration.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">OpenAI&#8217;s Sam Altman was mostly quiet on X Monday. But very late in the day, he wrote that DeepSeek was &#8220;impressive\u2026 particularly around what they&#8217;re able to deliver for the price&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">&#8220;We will obviously deliver much better models and also it&#8217;s legit invigorating to have a new competitor!&#8221; he wrote.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph e1jhz7w10\">It was Sputnik that truly ushered in the space age. There, too, the US was caught off guard. How its tech sector responds to this apparent surprise from a Chinese company will be interesting &#8211; and it may have added serious fuel to the AI race.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"topic-list\" class=\"ssrcss-1qmkvfu-TopicListWrapper etw6iwl1\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-113c0cq-StyledTagContainer ed0g1kj1\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-50vlbt-TopicListHeaderWrapper etw6iwl0\">\n<h2 type=\"normal\" class=\"ssrcss-ad2rmd-Heading e10rt3ze0\">Related topics<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ssrcss-17ehax8-Cluster e1ihwmse1\">\n<ul role=\"list\" spacing=\"2\" class=\"ssrcss-1ujonwb-ClusterItems e1ihwmse0\">\n<li>China<\/li>\n<li>Artificial intelligence<\/li>\n<li>Donald Trump<\/li>\n<li>United States<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Published at Tue, 28 Jan 2025 05:08:22 +0000<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>China&#8217;s DeepSeek AI upends assumptions and dents America&#8217;s swagger Reuters Lily Jamali North America Technology Correspondent, San Francisco 10 minutes ago The speed at which the new Chinese AI app DeepSeek has shaken the technology industry, the markets and the bullish sense of American superiority in the field of artificial intelligence (AI) has been nothing&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/chinas-deepseek-ai-upends-assumptions-and-dents-americas-swagger\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">China&#8217;s DeepSeek AI upends assumptions and dents America&#8217;s swagger<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":3062,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3063","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-technology","entry"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3063","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3063"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3063\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3062"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3063"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3063"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3063"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}