{"id":3130,"date":"2025-02-10T14:31:05","date_gmt":"2025-02-10T14:31:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/second-labour-mp-apologises-over-whatsapp-comments\/"},"modified":"2025-02-10T14:31:05","modified_gmt":"2025-02-10T14:31:05","slug":"second-labour-mp-apologises-over-whatsapp-comments","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/second-labour-mp-apologises-over-whatsapp-comments\/","title":{"rendered":"Second Labour MP apologises over WhatsApp comments"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Second Labour MP apologises over WhatsApp comments<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"byline-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\">\n<div data-testid=\"byline-new\" class=\"sc-b42e7a8f-0 haItSe\">\n<div class=\"sc-b42e7a8f-1 cjDa-dM\"><time datetime=\"2025-02-10T14:11:17.116Z\" class=\"sc-b42e7a8f-2 bGezbH\">13 minutes ago<\/time><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"byline-new-contributors\" class=\"sc-b42e7a8f-12 fcCDwR\">\n<div class=\"sc-b42e7a8f-5 evAEAB\">\n<div><span class=\"sc-b42e7a8f-7 khDNZq\">Alex Boyd &amp; Sofia Ferreira Santos<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>BBC News<!-- --><\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 ejjhCR\">\n<div data-testid=\"hero-image\" class=\"sc-a34861b-1 jxzoZC\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/JNED7K.png\" class=\"sc-a34861b-0 cOpVbP hide-when-no-script\"><img decoding=\"async\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/bb27\/live\/7ef89c90-e7af-11ef-a819-277e390a7a08.jpg.webp 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/bb27\/live\/7ef89c90-e7af-11ef-a819-277e390a7a08.jpg.webp 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/bb27\/live\/7ef89c90-e7af-11ef-a819-277e390a7a08.jpg.webp 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/bb27\/live\/7ef89c90-e7af-11ef-a819-277e390a7a08.jpg.webp 640w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/bb27\/live\/7ef89c90-e7af-11ef-a819-277e390a7a08.jpg.webp 800w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/bb27\/live\/7ef89c90-e7af-11ef-a819-277e390a7a08.jpg.webp 1024w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/bb27\/live\/7ef89c90-e7af-11ef-a819-277e390a7a08.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/bb27\/live\/7ef89c90-e7af-11ef-a819-277e390a7a08.jpg.webp\" alt=\"UK Parliament Oliver Ryan MP for Burnley in his official Parliamentary portrait taken in 2024\" class=\"sc-a34861b-0 efFcac\"><span class=\"sc-a34861b-2 fxQYxK\">UK Parliament<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\" readability=\"19.22525107604\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">A second Labour MP has apologised for comments made in a WhatsApp chat, after Andrew Gwynne was sacked as a minister over messages he sent to the same group.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Burnley MP Oliver Ryan said in a statement that comments he made in the group &#8220;were completely unacceptable&#8221; and he regretted &#8220;not speaking out at the time&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Fellow MP Gwynne was sacked as health minister on Saturday after <!-- -->the Mail on Sunday reported<!-- --> he sent a string of offensive and abusive messages in the WhatsApp group, which contained other Labour figures.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Home Office Minister Angela Eagle said the party&#8217;s chief whip would be speaking to Ryan and that Gwynne&#8217;s swift suspension showed that the PM would &#8220;uphold the highest standards&#8221;. <!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\" readability=\"22.811881188119\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">On Monday, Greater Manchester Police confirmed it had received &#8220;a small number of complaints relating to publicised messages allegedly from a WhatsApp Group&#8221;, without confirming the identity of those involved. <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">A statement continued: &#8220;A non-crime hate incident has been recorded and we are in contact with our Parliamentary liaison as part of our initial enquiries.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Eagle told the BBC&#8217;s Today programme that she felt &#8220;pretty queasy and astonished&#8221; after seeing the messages.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">West Lancashire MP Ashley Dalton <!-- -->has been appointed<!-- --> to replace Gwynne as health minister. <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Dalton was first elected to Parliament in 2023 and since the election had been serving as the parliamentary private secretary to Health Secretary Wes Streeting.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Last July she revealed <!-- -->she had been diagnosed<!-- --> with breast cancer for the second time. <!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\" readability=\"67\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Ryan&#8217;s messages were sent before he was elected as an MP but were reported in the Daily Mail on Sunday evening. <!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">They appear to show Ryan, who is gay, mocking another Labour MP for his sexuality, and denigrating the vice-chairman of the local Labour Party.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">In his statement, Ryan said:<!-- --><b id class=\"sc-7dcfb11b-0 kVRnKf\"> <!-- --><\/b>&#8220;I did not see every message, but I accept responsibility for not being more proactive in challenging what was said.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;I also made some comments myself which I deeply regret and would not make today and for that, I wholeheartedly apologise.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Ryan said the WhatsApp group, reportedly called Trigger Me Timbers, was created by his &#8220;MP and former employer, Andrew Gwynne&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He said he would co-operate fully with Labour&#8217;s investigation, which began after Gwynne&#8217;s messages were revealed.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Gwynne was suspended from the party and apologised in a statement on X for any offence caused by the &#8220;badly misjudged&#8221; comments.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">In messages seen by the Mail on Sunday, Gwynne said he hoped a 72-year-old woman would soon be dead after she wrote to her local councillor about bin collections.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The councillor shared the woman&#8217;s letter with Gwynne and other Labour figures in a WhatsApp group called Trigger Me Timbers, the newspaper reported.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The newspaper said Gwynne also joked about a constituent being &#8220;mown down&#8221; by a truck.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">The former health minister also reportedly posted sexist comments about Angela Rayner, racist remarks about Labour MP Diane Abbott, and appeared to make light of antisemitism.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">And he reportedly responded to a message containing the name of an American psychologist, Marshall Rosenberg, saying he sounded &#8220;too militaristic and too Jewish&#8221;, adding &#8220;Is he in Mossad?&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Ryan&#8217;s participation in the group was reported by the paper the following day.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Following Gwynne&#8217;s sacking, a government spokesperson said Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer was &#8220;determined to uphold high standards of those in public office&#8221; and &#8220;will not hesitate to take action against any minister who fails to meet these standards&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">A Labour spokesperson added: &#8220;Swift action will be taken if individuals are found to have breached the high standards expected of them as Labour Party members&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<figure>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 jFCfG\">\n<div data-testid=\"image\" class=\"sc-a34861b-1 jxzoZC\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/JNED7K.png\" class=\"sc-a34861b-0 cOpVbP hide-when-no-script\"><img decoding=\"async\" sizes=\"(min-width: 1280px) 50vw, (min-width: 1008px) 66vw, 96vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/8292\/live\/c27573e0-e772-11ef-bd1b-d536627785f2.jpg.webp 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/8292\/live\/c27573e0-e772-11ef-bd1b-d536627785f2.jpg.webp 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/8292\/live\/c27573e0-e772-11ef-bd1b-d536627785f2.jpg.webp 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/640\/cpsprodpb\/8292\/live\/c27573e0-e772-11ef-bd1b-d536627785f2.jpg.webp 640w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/8292\/live\/c27573e0-e772-11ef-bd1b-d536627785f2.jpg.webp 800w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/8292\/live\/c27573e0-e772-11ef-bd1b-d536627785f2.jpg.webp 1024w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/8292\/live\/c27573e0-e772-11ef-bd1b-d536627785f2.jpg.webp 1536w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/8292\/live\/c27573e0-e772-11ef-bd1b-d536627785f2.jpg.webp\" alt=\"PA Media File photo dated 09\/06\/22 of Labour MP Andrew Gwynne walking\" class=\"sc-a34861b-0 efFcac\"><span class=\"sc-a34861b-2 fxQYxK\">PA Media<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"sc-18fde0d6-0 dlWCEZ\" readability=\"53\">\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Ryan, 29, said he was a member of the WhatsApp group between 2019 and early 2022, when he was a councillor on Tameside Metropolitan Borough Council. He was elected for the first time as an MP in July last year.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;Some of the comments made in that group were completely unacceptable, and I fully condemn them,&#8221; he added.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;I regret not speaking out at the time, and I recognise that failing to do so was wrong.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">An independent councillor on Tameside Borough Council, Kaleel Khan, said he had made a &#8220;hate crime report&#8221; to the police on Sunday after constituents contacted him with concerns about some of the messages.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He told the BBC: &#8220;What worries me is when you have an elected official mocking women, or mocking black people, Jewish people, and constituents too.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Khan said he had also written to ask the council to carry out an investigation into the actions of councillors in the WhatsApp group.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;I work with them, I am quite surprised at one or two of them, that they didn&#8217;t call it out&#8221; he told the BBC, and added: &#8220;I am very, very surprised they did not put a stop to it and leave the group.&#8221;<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">Also on Sunday, Conservative shadow cabinet office minister Alex Burghart told Sky News that he questioned whether members of the WhatsApp group called out Gwynne&#8217;s remarks at the time.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">&#8220;That was a big WhatsApp group with a lot of other Labour members &#8211; did any of them step in at the time? Did any of them call that out?&#8221; he said.<!-- --><\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-eb7bd5f6-0 fYAfXe\">He added that Gwynne&#8217;s message about the elderly constituent was &#8220;sort of quite a nasty attempt to do down an old person&#8221;, and deemed another about someone&#8217;s name sounding &#8220;too Jewish&#8221; as &#8220;sinister&#8221;.<!-- --><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Published at Mon, 10 Feb 2025 14:11:17 +0000<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Second Labour MP apologises over WhatsApp comments 13 minutes ago Alex Boyd &amp; Sofia Ferreira Santos BBC News UK Parliament A second Labour MP has apologised for comments made in a WhatsApp chat, after Andrew Gwynne was sacked as a minister over messages he sent to the same group. 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