{"id":858,"date":"2023-07-02T06:50:24","date_gmt":"2023-07-02T06:50:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/laura-kuenssberg-love-it-or-hate-it-the-nhs-is-here-to-stay\/"},"modified":"2023-07-02T06:50:24","modified_gmt":"2023-07-02T06:50:24","slug":"laura-kuenssberg-love-it-or-hate-it-the-nhs-is-here-to-stay","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/260web.com\/news\/laura-kuenssberg-love-it-or-hate-it-the-nhs-is-here-to-stay\/","title":{"rendered":"Laura Kuenssberg: Love it or hate it, the NHS is here to stay"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Laura Kuenssberg: Love it or hate it, the NHS is here to stay<\/p>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"ssrcss-1y79c70-ComponentWrapper ep2nwvo1\">\n<figure class=\"ssrcss-wpgbih-StyledFigure e34k3c23\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-ab5fd8-StyledFigureContainer e34k3c21\"><span class=\"ssrcss-11kpz0x-Placeholder e16icw910\"><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/9732\/production\/_130260783_swlk_comp_0107.jpg.webp 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/9732\/production\/_130260783_swlk_comp_0107.jpg.webp 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/9732\/production\/_130260783_swlk_comp_0107.jpg.webp 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/624\/cpsprodpb\/9732\/production\/_130260783_swlk_comp_0107.jpg.webp 624w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/9732\/production\/_130260783_swlk_comp_0107.jpg.webp 800w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/976\/cpsprodpb\/9732\/production\/_130260783_swlk_comp_0107.jpg.webp 976w\" type=\"image\/webp\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Composite image of Laura Kuenssberg and NHS staff\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/9732\/production\/_130260783_swlk_comp_0107.jpg 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/9732\/production\/_130260783_swlk_comp_0107.jpg 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/9732\/production\/_130260783_swlk_comp_0107.jpg 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/624\/cpsprodpb\/9732\/production\/_130260783_swlk_comp_0107.jpg 624w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/9732\/production\/_130260783_swlk_comp_0107.jpg 800w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/976\/cpsprodpb\/9732\/production\/_130260783_swlk_comp_0107.jpg 976w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/976\/cpsprodpb\/9732\/production\/_130260783_swlk_comp_0107.jpg\" width=\"976\" height=\"549\" loading=\"eager\" class=\"ssrcss-evoj7m-Image ee0ct7c0\"><\/picture><\/span><span role=\"text\" class=\"ssrcss-tvuve5-StyledFigureCopyright e34k3c20\">BBC\/PA Media<\/span><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"byline-block\" class=\"ssrcss-1bdte2-BylineComponentWrapper e8mq1e90\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-qt5zqv-BylineWrapper e8mq1e917\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-h3c0s8-ContributorContainer e8mq1e916\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-1u2in0b-Container-ContributorDetails e8mq1e913\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-68pt20-Text-TextContributorName e8mq1e96\">By Laura Kuenssberg<\/div>\n<div class=\"ssrcss-84ltp5-Text e8mq1e910\">Presenter, Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ssrcss-jlwt2c-Divider e8mq1e915\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\"><b class=\"ssrcss-hmf8ql-BoldText e5tfeyi3\">The British have a love-hate relationship with the NHS.<\/b><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">According to researchers at the King&#8217;s Fund, the public gave the NHS its worst rating since records began 40 years ago. Just 29% said they were satisfied with the NHS in 2022.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">And yet we still love it. A whopping 90% of the public agrees the service should be free and available to everyone. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">But with more than seven million people on waiting lists, almost everyone knows someone who isn&#8217;t getting the care they need. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">As the NHS approaches its 75th anniversary, politicians are falling over themselves to praise the service. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">But when the cameras aren&#8217;t rolling, the message you hear can be a very different one. Just like us, politicians have a love-hate relationship with the NHS. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">&#8220;The whole system is paralysed and not improving &#8211; all the progress is going backwards.&#8221; That&#8217;s not the kind of thing you&#8217;re likely to hear a minister say in public but it is the candid verdict of a former health minister talking privately. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"unordered-list-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-1o5f7ft-BulletListContainer e5tfeyi0\">\n<ul role=\"list\">\n<li>Hugh Pym: Will the plan to tackle NHS staffing shortages work?<\/li>\n<li>Ministers set out plan to train and keep more NHS staff<\/li>\n<li>High rate of avoidable deaths linked to NHS woes<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">They say the NHS chief executive has become the &#8220;rationer-in-chief&#8221; tasked with &#8220;spreading the jam more and more thinly&#8221; as the demand for care races ahead of what&#8217;s available.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">Another Conservative former minister tells me the &#8220;National Health Service is an oxymoron&#8221;, a contradiction, because &#8220;the leadership is incredibly patchy and outcomes are mixed&#8221;.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" 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I&#8217;ll moan and moan and moan about it, but if someone else from outside has a go at them, I&#8217;ll have them on toast. It&#8217;s like criticising your football team &#8211; they can naff off!&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">Plenty of politicians talk about reforms to the service &#8211; whether that is working with the private sector or this week&#8217;s workforce plan. But whether it is required or not, it is almost unthinkable now that any mainstream politician would argue for a sweeping change to the whole system. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">Of course, that has an impact on what governments choose to do to try and improve the service, which might not be the most effective long-term focus.  <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">One former official suggests: &#8220;Politicians want solutions with easy metrics like cutting waiting lists. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">&#8220;If you do cut them in the short term, that just means more operations, it doesn&#8217;t address stopping people being ill in the first place.&#8221; <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">A former minister says rather than go for bold reforms after the pandemic &#8220;we have gone straight back to the voodoo land of heroic pointless commitments that will never get met because as a country we are so ill&#8221;.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"ssrcss-xza2yt-ComponentWrapper ep2nwvo1\">\n<figure class=\"ssrcss-wpgbih-StyledFigure e34k3c23\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-ab5fd8-StyledFigureContainer e34k3c21\"><span class=\"ssrcss-13wlw3q-Placeholder e16icw910\"><span><\/p>\n<div><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/17C1D\/production\/_130190379_treatable_deaths-nc.png.webp 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/17C1D\/production\/_130190379_treatable_deaths-nc.png.webp 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/17C1D\/production\/_130190379_treatable_deaths-nc.png.webp 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/624\/cpsprodpb\/17C1D\/production\/_130190379_treatable_deaths-nc.png.webp 624w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/17C1D\/production\/_130190379_treatable_deaths-nc.png.webp 800w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/976\/cpsprodpb\/17C1D\/production\/_130190379_treatable_deaths-nc.png.webp 976w\" type=\"image\/webp\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Bar chart showing that the death rate from treatable conditions is higher in the UK compared with similar countries. United States 88 per 100,000 people, United Kingdom and Greece 69, Ireland 65, Portugal 64, New Zealand and Germany 62, Canada 56, Denmark and Austria 55\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/17C1D\/production\/_130190379_treatable_deaths-nc.png 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/17C1D\/production\/_130190379_treatable_deaths-nc.png 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/17C1D\/production\/_130190379_treatable_deaths-nc.png 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/624\/cpsprodpb\/17C1D\/production\/_130190379_treatable_deaths-nc.png 624w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/17C1D\/production\/_130190379_treatable_deaths-nc.png 800w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/976\/cpsprodpb\/17C1D\/production\/_130190379_treatable_deaths-nc.png 976w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1024\/cpsprodpb\/17C1D\/production\/_130190379_treatable_deaths-nc.png\" width=\"1024\" height=\"880\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"ssrcss-evoj7m-Image ee0ct7c0\"><\/picture><\/div>\n<p><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">Another suggests ministers are actually scared of telling the public hard truths about increasing cost pressures in the health service. &#8220;The public has unrealistic expectations of what we can deliver &#8211; the government is frightened of that,&#8221; they say.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">And as we&#8217;ve talked about many times here and on the show, unless and until governments confront the aching gaps in care for the elderly and vulnerable, the rest of the health service has to absorb the costly consequences of social care system that to a large extent just doesn&#8217;t work. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">One of the former ministers I&#8217;ve spoken to is intensely frustrated that it is so hard to have a full conversation about the NHS, saying that &#8220;it&#8217;s a political problem, not a resources problem. Our politicians just aren&#8217;t finding the space&#8221; to talk about really bold changes.  <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">One former adviser agrees, saying &#8220;everyone of all stripes is scared to take it on&#8221;.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">Yet the fact politicians find it almost impossible to talk about alternatives is also a tribute to the longevity of the NHS and the public&#8217;s belief in it. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">The former adviser suggests that while people have to wait and outcomes vary &#8220;as a system it is extraordinarily fair and that has to be worth something&#8221;.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"text-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<p class=\"ssrcss-1q0x1qg-Paragraph eq5iqo00\">Love it and hate it. It is most certainly here to stay. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"image-block\" class=\"ssrcss-xza2yt-ComponentWrapper ep2nwvo1\">\n<figure class=\"ssrcss-wpgbih-StyledFigure e34k3c23\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-ab5fd8-StyledFigureContainer e34k3c21\"><span class=\"ssrcss-16y842a-Placeholder e16icw910\"><span><\/p>\n<div><picture><source srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/FA7D\/production\/_130252146_cps_strap_bottom_lk.png.webp 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/FA7D\/production\/_130252146_cps_strap_bottom_lk.png.webp 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/FA7D\/production\/_130252146_cps_strap_bottom_lk.png.webp 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/624\/cpsprodpb\/FA7D\/production\/_130252146_cps_strap_bottom_lk.png.webp 624w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/FA7D\/production\/_130252146_cps_strap_bottom_lk.png.webp 800w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/976\/cpsprodpb\/FA7D\/production\/_130252146_cps_strap_bottom_lk.png.webp 976w\" type=\"image\/webp\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"SWLK bottom strap\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/240\/cpsprodpb\/FA7D\/production\/_130252146_cps_strap_bottom_lk.png 240w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/320\/cpsprodpb\/FA7D\/production\/_130252146_cps_strap_bottom_lk.png 320w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/480\/cpsprodpb\/FA7D\/production\/_130252146_cps_strap_bottom_lk.png 480w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/624\/cpsprodpb\/FA7D\/production\/_130252146_cps_strap_bottom_lk.png 624w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/800\/cpsprodpb\/FA7D\/production\/_130252146_cps_strap_bottom_lk.png 800w, https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/976\/cpsprodpb\/FA7D\/production\/_130252146_cps_strap_bottom_lk.png 976w\" src=\"https:\/\/ichef.bbci.co.uk\/news\/1536\/cpsprodpb\/FA7D\/production\/_130252146_cps_strap_bottom_lk.png\" width=\"1536\" height=\"26.666666666666668\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"ssrcss-evoj7m-Image ee0ct7c0\"><\/picture><\/div>\n<p><\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"subheadline-block\" class=\"ssrcss-19w8cxh-ComponentWrapper-HeadlineComponentWrapper egtrm1f0\">\n<h2 tabindex=\"-1\" id=\"More-from-Laura-Kuenssberg\" class=\"ssrcss-y2fd7s-StyledHeading e1fj1fc10\"><span role=\"text\">More from Laura Kuenssberg<\/span><\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"unordered-list-block\" class=\"ssrcss-11r1m41-RichTextComponentWrapper ep2nwvo0\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-7uxr49-RichTextContainer e5tfeyi1\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-1o5f7ft-BulletListContainer e5tfeyi0\">\n<ul role=\"list\">\n<li>Sunak concerned over volatile Russia situation <\/li>\n<li>Sunak will be judged on tackling the NHS crisis<\/li>\n<li>So is Keir Starmer a prime minister in waiting? <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div data-component=\"topic-list\" class=\"ssrcss-1qmkvfu-TopicListWrapper etw6iwl1\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-1szabdv-StyledTagContainer ed0g1kj1\">\n<div class=\"ssrcss-50vlbt-TopicListHeaderWrapper etw6iwl0\">\n<h2 class=\"ssrcss-q4zz1q-StyledHeading e1fj1fc10\">Related Topics<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"ssrcss-17ehax8-Cluster e1ihwmse1\">\n<ul role=\"list\" spacing=\"2\" class=\"ssrcss-1ujonwb-ClusterItems e1ihwmse0\">\n<li>NHS<\/li>\n<li>Laura Kuenssberg<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Published at Sat, 01 Jul 2023 14:05:49 +0000<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Laura Kuenssberg: Love it or hate it, the NHS is here to stay BBC\/PA Media By Laura Kuenssberg Presenter, Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg The British have a love-hate relationship with the NHS. 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